Philip Campbell of @nature talk at @ucdavis met w/ some skepticism …
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Philip Campbell of @nature talk at @ucdavis met w/ some skepticism …
Sir Philip Campbell gave a talk at UC Davis on “Challenges for Research Group Leaders”. A few people Tweeted during his talk. Here is a recap. I threaded all my Tweets with my first one below so it might be better / easier to follow the discussion if you just go directly to that Tweet.
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@phylogenomics @ucdavis @nature LMFTFY Campbell will speak on “Challenges for WHITE MALE research group leaders and the support they need” Maybe a toss away slide for POC/Women pic.twitter.com/rnLITkvsIo
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Hey @PsyArXiv – you’re in Philip Campbell’s talk (EiC of Nature). He’s encouraging authors to use preprint servers.
@improvingpsych pic.twitter.com/Uzbji33LZR -
When @nature editor Campbell was in MN giving a similar talk, multiple women said he spent downtime joking about “women in the kitchen” and such. HILL-arious. https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935207488084893696 …
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Also, a super fine stamp of approval from their most white dood reviewers! https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935209620586479617 …
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Also, a super fine stamp of approval from their most white dood reviewers! https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935209620586479617 …
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Apparently I’m just going to sit here from afar and heckle @phylogenomics twitter stream on @nature editors blah-blah about promoting science. pic.twitter.com/GDm1tE8U3w
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@phylogenomics @ucdavis @nature Pressures on PIs like needing to have 4 post docs work for 4 years to get a @nature publication? Like that kind of pressure? pic.twitter.com/36n3pVwwrU
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Wait….sprinkle some holy water on Sir Phillip and see if he burns for this lie! Also, WTF is up with their dumbass editorials and mansplaining? https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935210672954081280 …
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@phylogenomics Sure, not when reviewing; when deciding to send out to review 🙂
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Editor in Chief of Nature: editors don’t consider who author is, “authorship is not the point” (See pic) But double-blind review is optional pic.twitter.com/jWuIm9VN77 -
@phylogenomics aka Kant Understand!
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Tell me more about the values of @nature editors who doxx pseud female bloggers. 🍿🍿🍿 https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935210672954081280 …
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This doesn’t work. Editors and reviewers are human. You can’t just tell them to ignore who the authors are. https://twitter.com/siminevazire/status/935211323423571968 …
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Only someone who hasn’t read Anderson, or tried to argue in good faith with him, could say that. Than again, Nature is a for-profit anti-science scam so perhaps ol’ Phil believes his own bullshit. https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935210038594912257 …
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But…but….citations don’t matter! I heard Sir Phillip say this himself! https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935212658701123585 …
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@phylogenomics From just two months ago during #NatureDown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlYj4oinQCM …
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Also, the submission and publication fees to glam journals – those will set a new PI back a bit! https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935213122926690304 …
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At @ucdavis talk by Nature editor in chief. Can’t wait for Q & A – pretty sure @phylogenomics will make it interesting.
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I’m dying for Campbell to bust out Diamondis at the end of the talk for more bad mentoring advice like the 120-hour work week. https://edgeforscholars.org/glam-journals-whiff-again-with-more-bad-mentoring-and-career-advice/ … https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935212221054861312 …
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Editor in chief of Nature: survey results, what would improve reproducibility? “Journals enforcing standards” towards the bottom 🤔 pic.twitter.com/tcE4yCUNU3 -
@ucdavis @nature Honestly it is SO ridiculous for Sir Campbell to suggest @nature is trying to move away from the Impact Factor when all they do is promote their IF all the time http://www.nature.com/content/nature/impact_IF2014BANN/index.html?WT.mc_id=BAN_NATURE_1408_IF2014BANN … pic.twitter.com/EUJTx8AwqG -
@ucdavis @nature Honestly it is SO ridiculous for Sir Campbell to suggest @nature is trying to move away from the I… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/935214825189163014 …
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@phylogenomics @ucdavis @nature Are you KIDDING ME??? Nature publishes all the punching down editorials on trainees about how there are no jobs, they need to work more – UGH. @nature is the problem. pic.twitter.com/wGDAcd2PbC
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I bet Campbell isn’t even at UCDavis and @phylogenomics is just tweeting to make me have a stroke. pic.twitter.com/QP9LEV3L5u
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@dstephenlindsay Life scientists, I think? Last graph in this article: https://www.nature.com/news/1-500-scientists-lift-the-lid-on-reproducibility-1.19970 …
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@siminevazire @ucdavis @phylogenomics You should make it interesting. They are notoriously anti-female, beat down on trainees and driven by money not science.
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@phylogenomics @ucdavis @nature So…he’s just making a list of problems that @nature contributes to? Is that a fair summary of his talk thus far? Let’s get to some solutions there, Sir Phillip pic.twitter.com/BsTHoQJ8m3
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@matthewcobb @ucdavis @nature Well here is a page they have where they say “there may be some issues with IF” and then list their IF along w/ other metrics http://www.nature.com/npg_/company_info/journal_metrics.html … pic.twitter.com/yE0CGMSj0u -
@McLNeuro @siminevazire @ucdavis @phylogenomics I had this thought but don’t know how much risk it would entail for @siminevazire.
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@sennoma @siminevazire @ucdavis @phylogenomics I’m an assistant professor. You never have enough power, money or friends. I don’t get paid enough to not have an opinion when people are being punched down on.
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@sennoma @McLNeuro @siminevazire @ucdavis @phylogenomics Is @phylogenomics willing to communicate questions from the Twitter audience? 😈 The speaker should know that the world is watching & listening….
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Editor in chief of Nature: “Everyone complains about incentives. Who is in charge of incentives?” pic.twitter.com/aMb0qrV7OM -
@sennoma @siminevazire @ucdavis @phylogenomics I also don’t get paid enough to not end with a preposition
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@JoshFessel @sennoma @siminevazire @ucdavis @phylogenomics Actually, it’s just the five of us who are riled up. Everyone else is on about the royal wedding.
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@McLNeuro @siminevazire @ucdavis @phylogenomics I may have misread and/or miscommunicated. I meant that I didn’t feel right telling someone they should stir shit, when it’s them not me who’s going to live with the fallout. But I’m 100% pro-shit stirring!
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@McLNeuro @sennoma @siminevazire @ucdavis @phylogenomics I can be riled up about many things at once! I contain multitudes.
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@McLNeuro @JoshFessel @siminevazire @ucdavis @phylogenomics Inorite? It’s killing me. (Inherited power is an abomination.)
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@phylogenomics My favorite quote so far: every year we give a mentor award in a different country, last year was in the west coast. CA, OR, WA. Ha! The #bluewall has begun.
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@phylogenomics @ucdavis @nature If decisions abt promotion, tenure, & funding continue to be at least in part “outsourced” to high impact journals, that means @nature is in a powerful position as a change agent.
How is @nature going to use that power to the benefit of scientists & science? Help us.
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Mindless data-crunching made bearable with 2nd monitor showing live tweet commentary by @phylogenomics during Nature’s editor-in-chief talk at @ucdavis. I feel like I should pay for this entertainment.
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@phylogenomics @ucdavis Not to take anything away from the serious issued being raised though. Just loving the approach…
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All journals/editors should do this, in my opinion. Perhaps the easiest change we can make with potentially big impact. https://twitter.com/siminevazire/status/935232856242077697 …
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@siminevazire @phylogenomics @ucdavis @nature Thank you so, so much to @phylogenomics & @siminevazire for including the rest of us tweeps in the discussion!!! #21stcenturyscicomm
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Because youre a rockstar!! #AllHailEisen https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935221961990406144 …
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Bookmarking this thread for a thorough read later: https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935207488084893696 …
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@McLNeuro @phylogenomics Oh gawd that gif brings back memories.
“Ya hear that Elisabeth? I’m coming to join ya honey!” Lol #GoogOldDays -
I like the phrase “credibility revolution” – it captures both openness/transparency & reproducibility/rigor goals
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Like this thread @phylogenomics but Pro-Tip: You don’t have to call him “Sir” every time just ‘cos some hereditary rich old cow across the pond 🇬🇧 says so! https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935207488084893696 …
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@PSBROOKES I stopped it a few Tweets in – I think I copied that from somewhere and just pasted it in for a few tweets and then felt embarrassed …
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Good recap of Sir Philip Campbell’s (from Nature) talk, with excellent commentary from @McLNeuro https://twitter.com/phylogenomics/status/935207488084893696 …
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